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== Question about category  ==

I'm working on a major project to establish a process for the creation and implementation of categories. Currently I'm looking at the Help related categories. The links in is template takes the user to articles that reside in the Help namespace.&nbsp;So I don't understand why this template automatically adds the category "How to articles" to the pages it resides on. In addition the pages that are listed in this template have also had the "How to articles" category added to each page. What is the logic behind this? Why should Help content found in the Help namespace have both the "Help" category and the "How to articles" category? -Fran 21:06, 11 May 2011 (UTC) <br> 

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== Change in format of How-To Box  ==

{{helpbox|
|name=[[Help:Contributor Help|Contributor help]]
|group1=[[Help:Editing pages|Edit]]
|list1=[[Help:Editing a Page|Editing a Page]]<br />[[Help:The Editing Tool (FCK Editor)|Editing tool]]<br />[[Wikitext_Cheatsheet|Wikitext cheatsheet]]
|group2=[[Help:Links|Links]]
|list2=[[Help:Create an internal link|Internal links]]<br />[[Help:Create an external link|External links]]
|group3=[[Help:How to create an article|Pages]]
|list3=[[Help:Name a new article|Naming]]<br />[[Help:Renaming a page|Moving (renaming)]]
|group4=[[FamilySearch Wiki:Manual of Style|Style guide]]
|list4=[[Help:Formatting|Formatting]]
|group5=[[Community Center|Collaborate]]
|list5=[[Help:User page|User page]]<br />[[Help:Discussion Pages (Talk Pages)|Talk pages]]
|group6=Updates
|list6=[[Help:Tracking changes|Tracking changes]]<br />[[Help:Recent changes|Recent changes]]<br />[[Help:Watchlist|Watchlist]]
|group7=[[Help:Images|Images]]
|list7=[[Help:Uploading images and files|Uploading]]<br />[[Help:Adding images to articles|Adding to articles]]
|group8=[[Help:Adding basic tables to an article|Tables]]
|list8=[[Help:Tables|Advanced tables]]
|group9=[[Help:Templates|Templates]]
|list9=[[Help:A quick guide to templates|Quick guide]]
|group10=All Contributor Help
|list10=[[Help:Contributor Help|Contributor Help Menu]]<br />[[Help:Wiki Basics|Getting Started]]<br />[[Help:Editing a Page|Editing]]<br />[[Help:Images and files|Images]]<br />[[Help:Browsing the Wiki|Browsing]]<br />[[Help:User page and preferences|User Page and Preferences]]<br />[[Community Center]]<br />[[Help:Resources and lists|Resources and Lists]]<br />[[Help:Creating a Page|Creating a Page]]<br />[[Help:Technical information|Technical Information]]<br />[[Help:Guiding principles and policies|Principles and Policies]]<br />[[Help:Volunteer to help|Volunteer to Help]]
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{{navbar|New-how-to-articles}} }}<includeonly>{{{category|[[Category:Contributor Help|{{PAGENAME}}]]}}}</includeonly> 

I have created a new template {{tl|Contributor Help}} that includes links to the main pages featured on the redesigned [[Help:Contributor Help]] page and added it to these pages. In doing so I undid the changes back to the 22 December version of this template and then made some further edits; renaming the header for the template (to avoid confusion in having two templates using the same heading). I also remove the 11 group that was not displaying (there is a limit of 10 groups) the contents of which anyhow are now included in the {{tl|User Help}} template. --[[User:Cottrells|Steve]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:Cottrells|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cottrells|contribs]]}} 09:00, 2 January 2012 (UTC) 

:Our concern with this template is that it's too long, there's just too much there. What didn't you like about the change to the template made the other day? We know that it takes away links to the individual pages, and that that's not the "official" purpose of these navigation boxes. However, we'd rather have a navigation system that spans the help articles rather than just points out 1-2 of each type. A huge list like what this has turned into just makes my eyes water, and it really isn't helpful for contributors. -- [[User:VasquezJL|janellv]] {{toolbar|[[User talk:VasquezJL|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/VasquezJL|contribs]]}} 21:33, 4 January 2012 (UTC)