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Contributor Training[edit source]

Steve ...  I need to revert the changes you made to the New Contributor Training page yesterday.  I had moved the copies of Judy's old lessons to another page because they are not the handouts I give with my classes and I do not want it causing confusion.  Thanks, Jane  evancol 11:12, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

HI Jane, please go ahead and make the changes you need to make. I am a little confused as the only change I made to the page FamilySearch Wiki:New Contributors Training/Prior Lessons was to make the link an internal link rather than an external link. The link before and after the edit went to the same file (or at least duplicates of the same - due to the filename issue). See my comments about the issue on Judy's talk page. --Steve (talk| contribs) 12:13, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I had moved her lessons to a separate page and just had a note on the bottom of that page indicating old prior lessons were available and a link.  When you made the change, it brought the lessons back to my main page. I would tell you how it happened, but if you don't know, there is absolutely no way I understand it !!!!

Thanks Steve.   Jane evancol 12:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

STEVE ....   Kindly ignore this entire exchange.  Apparently, I have lost my mind.  Sorry for the interruption to your day!!!   Jane

RecordSearch template[edit source]

Hi Steve --

This one's got David Dilts and I stumped. We can't understand why the RecordSearch template is directing people to the FamilySearch home page, rather than the specific census database page. The problem is occurring on this page: Template:Census Online Florida. (Third column, all links, except 1940 links are having the problem.) Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you. Murphynw 22:19, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Nathan, there was a fix needed for the links to browse collection and waypoints. Part of the URL has changed from show to index. However the main use of the template linking to the collection search screen was working OK. I took a look at the {{Census Online Florida}} and found that the links in the 3rd column under the FamilySearch heading were not using the {{RecordSearch}} template. I have changed the links for the 1945 State Census. You can just follow these examples for the rest of that column. I did also notice that the links in the column headed Internet Archive were using the {{RecordSearch}} template and not linking to at all! --Steve (talk| contribs) 11:08, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

New Society Info Box Template[edit source]

Hi Steve! I’d like to create a new template based on the Infobox Societies template that would have a little bit more information. Is it possible for you to help me? I’d like it to be the same blue look but include some separators bolded on a gray background like on the County Infobox US County template. It would include the following with the bolded words as the separators: Name of Society; Society Logo; Date Established; Contact Info; Address; Telephone; Website; Facebook; Twitter; Society Meeting; Address; Day of Meeting; Time of Meeting; Society Building; Address; Hours; Society Officers; President; Vice President; Number of Members; Affiliations; Cost of Membership; Date last updated. Oh, and can there be that gray thin line between the logo and "date established" like in the original society info box? Thanks! BatsonDL 23:04, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Danielle, I'm not sure why you would want a new template, when we can improve the current one with the suggestions that you have made. Therefore I have made some of the changes to {{Infobox Societies}}, but not all the changes you've requested. I have run out of time just now, but I will work on the others soon. --Steve (talk| contribs) 13:23, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi Steve, Oh, I didn't think of that because I didn't want to step on any toes of those that created the original one. But that works for me! And this is looking great already! Thank you! BatsonDL 22:29, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Oh wait! I forgot to add an email address and fax under the contact info. Can we add that too? Sorry about that... BatsonDL 22:38, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi Danielle, I've added the parameters that you asked for that weren't already included in the template. Please let me know if any items need moving around or tweaking. I was the person who put together the template originally and I welcome any suggestions to enhance or improve it. Thanks for giving me this opportunity to work with you on this. --Steve (talk| contribs) 16:31, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Steve, this is so great! Thank you for taking the time to update it for me. I've been playing with it and I couldn't get the Facebook portion to work like the affiliations part. Is there a trick? Oh, and somehow the name of the society is going outside of the box. Thank you for doing it so fast. This has helped me and my project a ton. Thank you! BatsonDL 22:16, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Danielle, I have tweaked the template a little more and adjusted your example used in Scotland Genealogy. The colours used for the name title of the infobox are designed to be changeable, using the parameters name_color and back_color. I've added a note to the documentation giving the code to use to blend the title into the rest of the table. Another example using different colours, can be see in Dorset Family History Society. Also I changed the affiliations parameter so that it goes to the wiki page for Federation of Genealogical Societies rather than an external link. You could use either, but I think the internal link shows users to more content in the wiki. --Steve (talk| contribs) 07:22, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Steve, Perfect! And thanks so much for keeping me straight on this. We are going to recruit some societies to make their own pages so I was trying to make a scaled down version of the template with only the essentials so they wouldn't get too confused. And I'm glad you changed the affiliate. I totally forgot about the wiki page. Thanks again! BatsonDL 18:25, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Proposal to rename wiki content from Durham to County Durham[edit source]

Hi Steve.

Sorry ment to add here. I removed the Move template because as I searched the England (County) and found only a very few that were marked county. I also felt to move a talk page with out the (county) page was not logical to me. I agree that making all the England counties into county pages would be more logical. I just do not see doing one talk page. Think changing the regular pages would be a better move in my mind. Sandralpond 15:45, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Sandra, I will reinstate the {{move}} template and add further notes to clarify my proposal. Please add your comments to the Talk:Durham page, so that we can keep the discussion all in one place. --Steve (talk| contribs) 07:50, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you (Assize Court Records)[edit source]


Thank you for posting the correct image on the Assize article. I did put the image on the Main page. Thank you for showing me my errors. I mean that sincerely.


Hi Joy, I'm glad that you were happy to make the change. I know you spend a lot of time helping to improve the wiki and I don't want to lessen your enthusiasm. In this instance I was able to find a different photo that seemed a better fit for the article Assize Court Records. --Steve (talk| contribs) 11:19, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you (gold star)[edit source]

Just wanted to say thanks for the gold star. Lotje 08:24, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

"Tip" icon template[edit source]

Hi, Steve. Will you mind creating another template that allows editing? We have a tip icon, which we want to put with various tips. For an example, see Utah Newspapers. We will also want to be able to use other icons, which we have not yet identified. They may be for "Ideas" or "Caution" or something -- we may never implement other icons, but it is probably good to allow for that variable at the outset. Thanks for your great help, Steve. Awesome, what you can do. AdkinsWH 20:38, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Wilma, I have created a new template {{tip}} which I have then used to replace the table in the Utah Newspapers article. I know you asked about a template where you can change the image, this was already present in {{ambox}} shorthand for article message box. When you decide on icons for ideas and caution messages then additional templates can be created for them. --Steve (talk| contribs) 17:41, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, thank you, Steve! I'll have our group look at this next Wednesday. AdkinsWH 21:17, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Our group reviewed the tip. We love the bar on the left, and hope you can make the table border invisible. Thanks, Steve. AdkinsWH 17:10, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Wilma, I've now hidden the top, bottom and right hand borders. Personally I think the borders helped draw the eye to the information. --Steve (talk| contribs) 18:14, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Changes to tip template[edit source]

Hi Steve, Wilma's been presenting your creations at the Utah Wiki Project Meetings and I my mind became engaged as to how the whole thing gets constructed and how one can edit the template and make new ones, etc. I think I starting to get a grip on it, and wanted to run a test drive but wasn't sure just what the protocol might be. Should I create TIp2 template or "mess" with yours or??? Anyway here's what I had in mind... Well, as you can see I don't know what I'm doing yet; BUT if you switch to wikitext you will see the code for what I wanted to either create a new template for or change your Template:Tip too.

| type=style
| style= margin:0%; width:100%; border: 0px; border-left: 10px solid  #ffcc33;
| image = [[File:Tip Tip_Post_it_Pin.png|25px|Tip]]
| text = {{{text|{{{1|}}}}}}
<!-- Add categories and interwikis to the /doc subpage, not here! -->

JanaStokes 19:52, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jana, you ask about how you should go about running a test drive. The best place do test things out would be in your FamilySearch Wiki:Sandbox policy. As you test how a template works in a sandbox it does not effect anything else in the wiki. Once you have a solution/new feature worked out then you can move it to the FamilySearch Wiki:Template namespace or edit a template that already exist. However if that template is already being used in many pages it would more appropriate to start a discussion about the proposed change on the existing template's talk page. I have changed your post to show your code in the post. The differences between this and {{tip}} is a different coloured left hand border, a different image (the one you define does not exist in the wiki) which is displayed at half the size. Can you explain to me your thinking behind the changes? --Steve (talk| contribs) 15:53, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Steve!  I see you used a "pre" and a "/pre"....that's part of what I couldn't figure out. And I took your suggestion and starting playing with this stuff on my sandbox To answer your question - the Utah Wiki project (WIlma Adkins group) wanted the bar color to match the icon.  I felt the icon's resolution could be improved on and so uploaded a png file called Tip Post it Pin [I'm having problems preserving the transparency, but I contacted Lee Drew about that.] The Utah WIki project also decided to see how it looked with no border. Personally, I feel it's a bit of a strange combination; but do not feel strongly about it. I thought perhaps I could "figure out" how to make these template and badge things and thereby be somewhat useful to the group---you know, making different versions and swapping things back and forth as they decide on a final version. As you can tell, I only know enough to think I could learn to do this! Hope I'm not being too much of a pain :) Thanks again for your help!

JanaStokes 21:01, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Parish register box colours[edit source]

Hi Steve, Would love to discuss this with you. Am open to changing colours and simplifying with templates. Murphynw 01:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Here's an example of one of the boxes. Would you mind to tinker with it and see what you can come up with?

Online All Hallows the Great Parish Register Images and Indexes
1670-1812 Ancestry baptisms, marriages, and burials[1]
1813-1888 Ancestry[2] 1754-1890 Ancestry[3] 1813-1874 Ancestry[4]
Indexes 1668-1812 FamilySearch[5] 1754-1799 FamilySearch[6] 1754-1853 FindMyPast[7]
    1671-1837 FindMyPast[8]    
    1800-1837 Ancestry[9]    


  1. London, England, Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1538-1812, courtesy: Ancestry ($). Described as All Hallows the Great in the City of London | All Hallows the Less in the City of London. Marriages from 1754 to 1812 are not included in this database. Partially indexed.
  2. London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906, courtesy: Ancestry ($). Described as All Hallows the Great in the City of London. Partially indexed.
  3. London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921, courtesy: Ancestry ($). Described as All Hallows the Great in the City of London. Partially indexed.
  4. London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980, courtesy: Ancestry ($). Described as All Hallows the Great in the City of London. Partially indexed.
  5. Batch C021291, see: Hugh Wallis, "IGI Batch Numbers for London including Middlesex (A-M), England," IGI Batch Numbers, accessed 8 June 2011. Indexes parish register transcripts.
  6. Batch M021291, see: Hugh Wallis, "IGI Batch Numbers for London including Middlesex (A-M), England," IGI Batch Numbers, accessed 8 June 2011. Indexes parish register transcripts.
  7. John Hanson, "City of London Burials," Find My Past, accessed 8 June 2011.
  8. "Boyd's Marriage Index - Parish details by county,", accessed 12 June 2011; Percival Boyd, A List of Parishes in Boyd's Marriage Index (London: Society of Genealogists Enterprises Ltd., 1994). FHL Book 942 K22L 1994
  9. Pallot's Marriage and Birth Indexes, Guide to Parishes (n.p.: n.p., n.d.). FHL British Book 942 V25pm