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==After You Find the Name of Your Ancestors' Town in Germany==
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*So you went through a variety of United States records, and finally found the name of the town in Germany where your ancestors lived. Hopefully, along the way, you saw other clues to the region of that town, such as Saxony, Prussia, Hessen, or Bavaria.  Sometimes those regions are easier to find than the town, and they can be important if there are several towns of the same name. But your job might not be done. 
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*The town name you found, might be a small village that had no church of its own. You might have to figure out where the people in that village went to a nearby larger town to attend a Catholic church, and yet a different town if they were Lutheran. There might be a Catholic church in the village, but the Lutherans had to travel to another town.  <br>
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*Your town might have had a civil registration office of its  own, or it was too small and had to report births, marriages, and deaths in another closeby town.  Your town might have had its own civil registrar until the 1970's when all the offices were consolidated into fewer offices to save money. So to continue with your research, there is a little more detective work you need to do about your town.
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This article will teach you about some geographical reference aids that will help you find the location of genealogical records for your ancestors' town in Germany.
 
==Important Questions==
 
==Important Questions==
Once you have learned the name of the town in Germany where your ancestors lived, there are several questions you need to answer:
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There are important details you will need to know about your ancestors' town before you can actually find the records. Once you have learned the name of the town in Germany where your ancestors lived, there are several questions you need to answer:
 
# Are there several towns with that name, and if so, which one is the correct one?  
 
# Are there several towns with that name, and if so, which one is the correct one?  
 
# If you are looking for civil registration records (anything after 1876, and in some states sooner), where was the Standesamt (civil registry)? Where is it today?
 
# If you are looking for civil registration records (anything after 1876, and in some states sooner), where was the Standesamt (civil registry)? Where is it today?
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# |If the churches have placed the records in archives for safekeeping, which archives have jurisdiction for the area?
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'''Why are these questions important?'''
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*So you went through a variety of United States records, and finally found the name of the town in Germany where your ancestors lived. Hopefully, along the way, you saw other clues to the region of that town, such as Saxony, Prussia, Hessen, or Bavaria.  Sometimes those regions are easier to find than the town, and they can be important if there are several towns of the same name. But your job might not be done. 
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*The town name you found, might be a small village that had no church of its own. You might have to figure out where the people in that village went to a nearby larger town to attend a Catholic church, and yet a different town if they were Lutheran. There might be a Catholic church in the village, but the Lutherans had to travel to another town.  <br>
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*Your town might have had a civil registration office of its  own, or it was too small and had to report births, marriages, and deaths in another closeby town.  Your town might have had its own civil registrar until the 1970's when all the offices were consolidated into fewer offices to save money. So to continue with your research, there is a little more detective work you need to do about your town.
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Some of these questions will be answered in the [[Germany Genealogy#Finding Research Instructions for Your Specific Locality|'''Wiki Germany province page''']] for your [[Germany Genealogy#Finding Research Instructions for Your Specific Locality|'''province in Germany'''.]]  This article will teach you about some geographical reference aids that might also help you.
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==FamilySearch Catalog--Online Records==
==FamilySearch Catalog==
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*One of your eventual questions is whether the records you seek have been microfilmed or digitized by FamilySearch.  You can just by-pass all this geography and jump to checking to see if FamilySearch has the records. Go to [https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog  '''the FamilySearch Catalog'''] and enter the name of the town in the "Place" search field.  If there is an item there for any town of that name, the catalog will bring up a list, automatically adding country and province information. Click on the town and see what civil registration and church records are already available. You might not even have to use the rest of this article!
*One of your eventual questions is whether the records you seek have been microfilmed or digitized by FamilySearch.  You can just by-pass all this geography and jump to checking to see if FamilySearch has the records. Go to [https://www.familysearch.org/catalog/search '''the FamilySearch Catalog'''] and enter the name of the town in the "Place" search field.  If there is an item there for any town of that name, the catalog will bring up a list, automatically adding country and province information. Click on the town and see what civil registration and church records are already available. You might not even have to use the rest of this article!
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==Your Research Community==
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==Your Research Community--Online Advice==
 
This can be an intimidating process.  Help is available! The members of the [https://www.facebook.com/groups/CentralEuropeGenealogyResearchCommunity/ '''Central Europe Genealogy Research Community'''] can help you along the way.
 
This can be an intimidating process.  Help is available! The members of the [https://www.facebook.com/groups/CentralEuropeGenealogyResearchCommunity/ '''Central Europe Genealogy Research Community'''] can help you along the way.
 
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==Towns With the Same Name==
==Are there several towns with that name, and if so, which one is the correct one?==
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'''Are there several towns with that name, and if so, which one is the correct one?'''
 
Two great online gazetteers will help you find details about any location in Germany: [http://www.meyersgaz.org '''MeyersGaz Online Gazetteer'''] and
 
Two great online gazetteers will help you find details about any location in Germany: [http://www.meyersgaz.org '''MeyersGaz Online Gazetteer'''] and
 
[http://www.kartenmeister.com/preview/databaseuwe.asp '''Kartenmeister''']. Here are two online classes that will teach you how to use these:  
 
[http://www.kartenmeister.com/preview/databaseuwe.asp '''Kartenmeister''']. Here are two online classes that will teach you how to use these:  
[https://familysearch.org/ask/learningViewer/872 '''Meyer's Gazetteer Now Online, Indexed and Fully Searchable!'''] and [https://familysearch.org/ask/learningViewer/401 '''Finding Places in the Former German Areas of Poland Using the Online Gazetteer Kartenmeister.com''']
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[https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/lessons/meyers-gazetteer-now-online-indexed-and-fully-searchable '''Meyer's Gazetteer Now Online, Indexed and Fully Searchable!'''] and [https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/lessons/finding-places-in-the-former-german-areas-of-poland-using-the-online-gazetteer-kartenmeister-com '''Finding Places in the Former German Areas of Poland Using the Online Gazetteer Kartenmeister.com''']
    
===Find All the Towns of That Name in Meyers Gazetteer===
 
===Find All the Towns of That Name in Meyers Gazetteer===
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*'''If you cannot find other clues to narrow down the list of towns, you might have to check each town until you find the records you need.'''
 
*'''If you cannot find other clues to narrow down the list of towns, you might have to check each town until you find the records you need.'''
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==If you are looking for civil registration records (anything after 1876, and in some states sooner), where was the Standesamt (civil registry)? Where is it today?==
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==Finding the Civil Registry Office==
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'''If you are looking for civil registration records (anything after 1876, and in some states sooner), where was the Standesamt (civil registry)? Where is it today?'''
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Standesamt records in the FamilySearch collection will be listed by the Standesamt of the town in 1871, as found in Meyer's Gazetteer. For records never microfilmed or digitized, and for more recent records,  you will need to write to the current Standesamt. Several offices have been merged to save money. So you will have to find the current Standesamt with jurisdiction over your town.
 
Standesamt records in the FamilySearch collection will be listed by the Standesamt of the town in 1871, as found in Meyer's Gazetteer. For records never microfilmed or digitized, and for more recent records,  you will need to write to the current Standesamt. Several offices have been merged to save money. So you will have to find the current Standesamt with jurisdiction over your town.
 
===Determine the Standesamt (Civil Registry Office) Location===
 
===Determine the Standesamt (Civil Registry Office) Location===
 
*In [http://www.meyersgaz.org '''MeyersGaz.org'''] the location of the Standesamt is indicated by the abbreviation '''"StdA"'''.  This will be the location used in the '''FamilySearch Catalog.'''
 
*In [http://www.meyersgaz.org '''MeyersGaz.org'''] the location of the Standesamt is indicated by the abbreviation '''"StdA"'''.  This will be the location used in the '''FamilySearch Catalog.'''
 
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*For towns covered by [[User:Hanna5974/sandbox/Geographic Details For Your Ancestors' Town in Germany#Kartenmeister|'''Kartenmeister''']], the Standesamt is listed in every entry:
 
*For towns covered by [[User:Hanna5974/sandbox/Geographic Details For Your Ancestors' Town in Germany#Kartenmeister|'''Kartenmeister''']], the Standesamt is listed in every entry:
 
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==Where are the Lutheran church and the Catholic church that would have records for the town?==
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==Locating the Church Records==
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'''Where are the Lutheran church and the Catholic church that would have records for the town?'''
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The two dominant religious groups in Germany were Catholics and Evangelical Lutherans. Your town may have been the site of the main parish church for one or both of the religions, or it might have been a village within a larger parish.  So your next task is to find the parish church that kept the records for your town.  
 
The two dominant religious groups in Germany were Catholics and Evangelical Lutherans. Your town may have been the site of the main parish church for one or both of the religions, or it might have been a village within a larger parish.  So your next task is to find the parish church that kept the records for your town.  
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===Kevan Hansen's “Map Guide to German Parish Registers”===
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===Parish Register Inventories===
Kevan Hansen has prepared a 53-volume guide to maps of all the parishes in Germany, both Cathoilc and Lutheran (with information about minority religious groups--Jewish, French Protestant, etc.). To learn about these guides and how to use them, watch this online course:  [https://www.familysearch.org/ask/learningViewer/489 '''Hansen’s Map Guides: Finding Records with Parish Maps.''']   
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Some parish inventories are available online. These list the Evangelical Lutheran (Evangelische) and Catholic (Katholische) parish for each local town or village:. The following illustration is of the right-hand or second page, therefore the village name is out of sight.  But the point is, after you find the name of the village, you move across the page until you find these three columns:
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*'''Baden:'''  [http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Die_Kirchenb%C3%BCcher_in_Baden_(1957)/E-Book  Die Kirchenbücher in Baden]
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*'''Berlin and Brandenburg:''' [https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/34415/flhdeu2006a_01181005-00991?backurl=https%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fsearch%2fdb.aspx%3fdbid%3d34415%26path%3d&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnBrowsing Prussia, Municipality Gazetteer, volume 3, Berlin and Brandenburg], [https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=34415 ‘’’Index’’’] ($)
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*'''Hannover:''' [https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/34415/flhdeu2006a_01181005-02279?backurl=https%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fsearch%2fdb.aspx%3fdbid%3d34415%26path%3d&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnBrowsing  Prussia, Municipality Gazetteer, volume 9, Hannover], [https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=34415 ‘’’Index’’’]($)
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*'''Hessen:''' [http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Kirchenb%C3%BCcher_und_Standesregister_f%C3%BCr_alle_Wohnpl%C3%A4tze_im_Land_Hessen_(1939) Kirchenbücher und Standesregister für alle Wohnplätze im Land Hessen (1939)], abbreviations on page 178
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*'''Hohenzollern:''' [http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/w/index.php?title=Datei%3AHohenzollersche_Lande_1887.djvu&page=7 Hohenzollernische Lander]
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*'''Lippe-Detmold:''' [http://www.genealogy.net/reg/NRHE-WFA/lippe_orte-d.htmlCities, villages and places of residence in Lippe-Detmold]
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**[http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Die_Kirchenb%C3%BCcher_der_bayerischen_Pfalz_(1925) Die Kirchenbücher der Bayrischen Pfalz (1925)]
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**[http://www.lha-rlp.de/uploads/media/Kirchenbuchverzeichnis_uebergreifend.pdf Rheinhessen and Kurpfalz gazetteer and parish register inventory]
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*'''Rheinland:''' [http://www.digitalis.uni-koeln.de/Gemeinde/gemeinde_index.html Gemeindelexikon]
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*'''Saxony (Kingdom) (Königreich Sachsen):''' [http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Die_Kirchenb%C3%BCcher_im_K%C3%B6nigreich_Sachsen_(1901) Die Kirchenbücher im Königreich Sachsen]
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*'''Saxony (Prussian province) (Provinz Sachsen):''' [https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/34415/flhdeu2006a_01181005-01953?backurl=https%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fsearch%2fdb.aspx%3fdbid%3d34415%26path%3d&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnBrowsing Prussia, Municipality Gazetteer, volume 7, Provinz Sachsen], [https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=34415 ‘’’Index’’’] ($)
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*'''Schaumburg-Lippe:''' [http://www.genealogy.net/reg/NSAC/SLP/gaz.html  Ortsverzeichnis Schaumburg-Lippe ]
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*'''Schleswig-Holstein:''' [https://books.google.com/books?id=FYNAAQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Gemeindelexikon (1897)]
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*'''Waldeck-Pyrmont:'''  [https://books.google.de/books?id=9cEzAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA247&lpg=PA247&dq=Gemeindelexikon+Waldeck-Pyrmont&source=bl&ots=Dq1YeAIbz1&sig=ZQu3Sj6wuOlWxU7ywfOMG59VrCo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RvP5VOPmKseRoQSnrIDIBw&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Gemeindelexikon%20Waldeck-Pyrmont&f=false Gemeindelexikon Waldeck-Pyrmont (1905)]
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*'''Westfalen:''' [https://books.google.de/books?id=9cEzAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA249&lpg=PA249&dq=westfalen+Gemeindelexikon&source=bl&ots=Dq1YeAI5wY&sig=PUO5fBSFAp-BsT9eQ5lGabnZ5Ns&hl=en&sa=X&ei=y_D5VKjMKJH0oASEqYK4Bw&ved=0CFQQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=westfalen%20Gemeindelexikon&f=false Westfalen Gemeindelexikon (1905)]
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===Map Guide to German Parish Registers===
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In “Map Guide to German Parish Registers”, Kevan Hansen has prepared a 53-volume guide to maps of all the parishes in Germany, both Cathoilc and Lutheran (with information about minority religious groups--Jewish, French Protestant, etc.). To learn about these guides and how to use them, watch this online course:  [https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/lessons/hansens-map-guides-finding-records-with-parish-maps '''Hansen’s Map Guides: Finding Records with Parish Maps.''']   
 
*These are available at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah.   
 
*These are available at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah.   
*They can also be purchased online at bookstores such as Amazon.com. To determine which volume to use or purchase, consult Handout #2 in the [https://www.familysearch.org/ask/learningViewer/489 '''online course.'''] This might prove useful as your research takes you to other nearby communities as your family moves from parish to parish or marries into families from nearby parishes.  You might need to be continually consulting the book for each new locatiopn.
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*They can also be purchased online at bookstores such as Amazon.com. To determine which volume to use or purchase, consult Handout #2 in the [https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/lessons/hansens-map-guides-finding-records-with-parish-maps '''online course.'''] This might prove useful as your research takes you to other nearby communities as your family moves from parish to parish or marries into families from nearby parishes.  You might need to be continually consulting the book for each new locatiopn.
 
*You can contact the [https://www.facebook.com/groups/CentralEuropeGenealogyResearchCommunity/members/ '''Central European Genealogy Research Community'''] to see if one of their volunteers could consult the map guide for you.
 
*You can contact the [https://www.facebook.com/groups/CentralEuropeGenealogyResearchCommunity/members/ '''Central European Genealogy Research Community'''] to see if one of their volunteers could consult the map guide for you.
 
*Another option would be to hire a [[Professional Genealogists who specialize in German Research|'''professional genealogist''']] to consult the reference work for you, even though you would continue to do your own research after that
 
*Another option would be to hire a [[Professional Genealogists who specialize in German Research|'''professional genealogist''']] to consult the reference work for you, even though you would continue to do your own research after that
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*Look for your town on [https://maps.google.com/ '''Google Maps'''] with the phrase:  Churches near [your town]. You will get a map showing symbols and names for churches in the vicinity. On the left will be an actual address list for the churches.>
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*Look for your town on [https://maps.google.com/ '''Google Maps'''] with the phrase:  Churches near [your town]. You will get a map showing symbols and names for churches in the vicinity. On the left will be an actual address list for the churches. There is a possibility that the older church your ancestors used was destroyed and no longer exists, so this method has its imperfections.>
 
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====Wikipedia.de (German Wikipedia)====
 
====Wikipedia.de (German Wikipedia)====
 
*There is a dedicated [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite '''German Wikipedia'''], which you can choose to have displayed in English, that has a great deal more detail about Germany than the English Wikipedia.  Here is an example of the detail you might find there about the religious institutions within a city:
 
*There is a dedicated [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite '''German Wikipedia'''], which you can choose to have displayed in English, that has a great deal more detail about Germany than the English Wikipedia.  Here is an example of the detail you might find there about the religious institutions within a city:
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==If the churches have placed the records in archives for safekeeping, which archives have jurisdiction for the area?==
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Sometimes, local church records are donated to church archives for safekeeping.  Also, for certain time periods, duplicates of the church records were supposed to be sent to the government to act as civil registration.  So you can contact archives to find records.  The trick is to locate the correct archives.  Each [[Germany Genealogy#Research Instructions by 1864-1871 Region|'''Germany province page''']] has links for the appropriate archives.  Some of the listings have a link to lists for the church records that can be found at the archives.  Here is an example:
 
Sometimes, local church records are donated to church archives for safekeeping.  Also, for certain time periods, duplicates of the church records were supposed to be sent to the government to act as civil registration.  So you can contact archives to find records.  The trick is to locate the correct archives.  Each [[Germany Genealogy#Research Instructions by 1864-1871 Region|'''Germany province page''']] has links for the appropriate archives.  Some of the listings have a link to lists for the church records that can be found at the archives.  Here is an example:
 
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